Friday, January 21

Do You Freewrite?

 

Free-writing this morning will be done on the computer. My right elbow does not appreciate being used to make my hand work. Saw an interview with John Irving on French television last night – most interesting. He starts with the end first, then works backwards. Writes his first draft in longhand in a notebook with the left side of the pages always left blank, for insertions, correction, drawing, ideas. Big scrawling letters, no more than fifty-sixty words to a page. A very articulate man, thoughtful, straightforward. I must get one of his more recent novels next time I’m in Calgary. For him, style, or the use of language is paramount. More so than plot or theme. He dismissed Hemingway as boring. Admires Flaubert, Dickens and others who used language beautifully. Shakespeare.

Writing longhand makes him slow down. He writes too quickly on a computer and makes too many mistakes, but I don’t know if he was referring to typos or mistake of a more significant. But the process of writing by hand makes his writing equivalent to the speed of his thoughts, I understood. Perhaps I could try this? But I hardly need anything to slow down my thought processes, which are already at a glacial pace. Although, in this age of climate change, glaciers might be moving faster than my brain.

The second I think about this being seen by others, my mind interrupts and censors. What will they think? How will this be received? If I could get rid of the worry of how I am perceived, things would be smoother, better, faster. So laborious to write, normally, but here I am whizzing along at 100 words a minutes, maybe less, when I don’t think about what I’m saying. But it’s such drivel really. Talked to my daughter a few minutes ago and welcomes the interruption from writing. Always ready to hare off after a distraction. Like a moth around a bright light, I am. Unable to settle for more than a few minutes, so easily bored. The writer’s life is probably the polar opposite of what really suits me but still I persist in thinking I can do it. Free-writing is essential, according to some, but I don’t do it. I forget about it, or perhaps subconsciously I think nothing will help. Either I ram my head directly into the wall that is the act of writing well, or I avoid it altogether.

Read a few old comments just now and they are encouraging. People like to read what’s written in the blog, and so that tells me I can do it. Always relying on the opinion of others. Time to just look inward and satisfy myself first. Well, that is what I do, of course, but I feed off the praise of others. Just read about the woman in the US, Amy something, who has just had her book ‘Tiger Mothers’ or something, published. How to raise children to be successful by not giving in to the current (and longstanding) trend of praising children, building self-esteem through words, letting them choose their own direction, not imposing the discipline of effort on them. She’s been roundly criticized for the perceived cruelty of her parenting style, but her daughters (still teenagers) pronounce themselves happy. One has played at Carnegie Hall already, the results, her mother says, of having been expected to apply herself vigorously to piano. The first hour of practice is the easy part, but parents need to insist on the following two or three!! I could never be a parent like that. And many of her critics couldn’t either. Depends what your aim is: success for your child in what terms? And on what terms? I do agree that there is nothing equivalent to the satisfaction of having really worked for something (and obtaining it, one hopes) and somebody somewhere coined the term ‘authentic happiness’ for the gratification achieved from that.

Ms. Amy Tiger Mom knows all about that, and she’s not wrong, but she is a little too zealous for my taste, and one wonders how her daughters will view their upbringing as they become adults. She’s not concerned with being friends with her children, but how many of us (my generation) can say that? Do I care if my children like me? Damn right. Some of my parenting decisions were driven by a need to be thought of in a positive light, or perhaps more because I just couldn’t say no to them. Do they mean the same thing?

Enough of this exercise for this morning. Maybe now I’ve greased the wheels sufficiently to finish the post that I started a week ago. And the one that I started a week before that. Perfection is impossible, and yet I still chase after it.

Apart from the typos I couldn’t stop myself from correcting, the above is a verbatim free-writing exercise I did a few minutes ago.  For some reason, I resist doing this sort of thing, which many writers recommend as a way to free up creativity and get things rolling.  I thought it would be fun to see what kind of a discussion it generates.  I also think it’s a coward’s way out of writing a new post. 

Do you freewrite?   What’s your ‘process’ when you write for your blog?  Does it differ when you write other things?  Do you have an established pattern at all?  Why do so many writers just think about writing instead of getting down to the real thing? 

45 conversations:

  1. Hmmm... I feel ambivalent about Irving. An author whose novels I've seen but have yet to read.

    Reading 'Ulysses' now has made me understand why it is the classic it is, so luckily what I wrote on my blog about it some months ago did not in any way suggest disrespect.

    I agree with Irving that language is fundamental, the question is: whose language? 'Trainspotting' is written in the Scottish vernacular, so I was unable to read it, but when I saw the movie and read the book after (it still took me ages!), I realised that here was a piece of art that, although different from the mainstream, was still part of the classical literary canon. I never had much time for Hemingway when I was in uni, but purchased his 'For Whom the Bells Toll' recently whilst in Malaysia to give it another go. Maybe I'll change my mind about his style. Maybe it's to do with age.

    When it comes to works of fiction, I favour plot over language, which doesn't mean that I don't appreciate a book where the author dares to be creative with his or her lexicon. There are examples aplenty: 'Tres Tristes Tigres' (Three Sad Tigers) by the Cuban writer Guillermo Cabrera Infante, 'Rayuela' by Cortazar. But plot is important. No plot, I lose interest.

    This is a great post. And I'm all for free writing, then again, how 'free' are when we write? Or, how 'free' do we allow our language to be when write? :-)

    Questions, questions. Any answers?

    Greetings from London.

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  2. I think the last Irving novel I read was ‘A Prayer for Owen Meany’ - which I loved. I was surprised to read that although you’re ambivalent about him, you have yet to read him!
    Obviously a novel without plot will not work, although, although, I recently read one that was beautifully written, with characters beautifully observed, but in which nothing happened. I couldn’t finish it. Mr. Irving's pleasure at language deftly used is clear and I have to agree with him. Probably 60% (wild guess) of my enjoyment of any book comes from the writing - if it's good. A well-plotted but otherwise ordinary novel is only a way to spend time for me. I want the beauty of the language to be part of the experience.

    And Ulysses? Never finished that either. Maybe it's time to give it another go, about thirty years after I started it the first time. We could compare notes! :)

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  3. Good lord, is that what it's called? I thought it was my verbal diarrhoes that spilled out every time I sat a keyboard, or before a blank sheet of paper! Sounds so posh to call it 'free writing'...

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  4. And I can spell diarrhoea, but I can't type it...

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  5. Freewriting sounds rather like my ordinary thought processes , disorganised and easily distracted , so should be my forte .
    For instance , now I'm sitting delightedly repeating "Un tigre , dos tigre , tres tigres " as fast as I can . Something my children used to do when they were little . And thinking that diarrhoe does sound very like how one feels when afflicted with the ailment ... it's the "hoe!" bit at the end , I think .
    But , of course , it can't just be rabbiting on ..... ? Your freewriting is very much more intellectual . And , as always , very readable .

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  6. "Un tigre , dos tigres , tres tigres " of course . Otherwise it's not impossible to say fast , again and again .
    Freewriting's one thing . Typos are another .

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  7. Jinksy, it's official - you can now call it by a much classier name. Easier to spell, too.

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  8. I haven't done any freewriting in a while. I did Cameron's morning pages for a short bit. I didn't care for that much. It was to help guard against writer's blog, I think.

    I think the self-editing and wanting to please others might be a phase, but is also a natural part of writing forever. I don't know for sure, because my "spiritual" journey was coinciding with my more diligent writing practice. So my sense of self was changing as I practiced getting rid of certain voices in my head, ones I worried about that ultimately don't matter. So did my writing change because of that? Or because of the writing practice itself? I also think that we all feel incredibly vulnerable when we put something out here. I can think something I write is masterful one minute and downright naive the next. Until someone responds to it, I can feel terrible uncertainty. But over time, with a lot of writing, and a lot of feedback, we develop a confidence. After a while, we figure out that what we write is for ourselves. But without an audience who appreciates it, are we achieving our goal? I think it is a "performance" to some degree. Sure, we could just say, to hell with it, if no one likes what I write, who cares? But we write to express how we transform the world through ourselves. The main reason I express it is for someone else to take it into themselves and do the same. This human exchange is why I write.

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  9. Oh, and as for Ms. Chua, I think she is a loony! Forgive me, I never say such things, but really? If life is all about achieving the highest level of standards that the world and society sets up, in terms only regarding the skills she thinks are important, then what about the human values of friendship and such?

    David Brooks in the NYTimes.com had a wonderful Op-Ed about it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/opinion/18brooks.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage

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  10. S&S, I always thought of you as grounded and sensible, but muttering Spanish tiger tongue twisters all to yourself suggests I might have been wrong.

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  11. I do, it's like doodling to get you creative juices going to paint.

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  12. So, when a writer engages in free writing, is she discovering her own thoughts as she writes, or is she writing down forgotten thoughts that she had filed away in some mental drawer?

    Your free writing is intelligent and has a certain rhythm. When I do it, I sound drunk.

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  13. Ruth, your phrase 'it's a performance to some degree' pulled me up short. You're right, of course. We write to be read - or at least most writers do. I love the 'human exchange' but it's only part of why I write - although a bigger part than it used to be. It's good to hear your view on writing, the vulnerability of it, the doubts etc. It seems to me that lately you have been gaining courage in leaps and bounds. There's an air about your blog that feels quite different although I'd be hard-pressed to explain myself.
    I went to that NY Times piece and thought it was great - he was much kinder to Amy Tiger Mom than most, and he had a very good point to make.
    Freewriting does get the Oh That's Just Crap critic off my shoulder. I'm way less self-conscious writing that way and should do it more often.

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  14. Von, that's exactly right! Glad to hear somebody else finds it useful.

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  15. Bruce, oh I can do drunk, too. I mean, write drunk. But I'd be too mortified to put it here. Had this been a bad free-writing day you wouldn't have heard about it.

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  16. I call it freefall writing, the term used by the writer and facilitator Barbara Turner Vesselago. See: http://www.freefallwriting.com/ I've been to a few of Barbaras's workshops, one of the best things I've ever done to help my writing.

    I freefall all the time now, but not merely as free association . For me it's more thoughtful than that.

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  17. I am not too clear in my mind about the concept of free-writing. It sounds to me like a stream of consciousness on paper – writing for the sake of writing without an aim a subject or real thinking about the act, is that what you mean? I have never done something like this 100%. I write in a way like I talk, but I think about it. If I know what my post is about I’ll write the post in usually 20 minutes or so. First of all I look at my pictures, postcards or paintings and decide which ones to use then once I have all this set up I can write the post in just a few minutes. My husband then rereads it and discusses any non-English style I have for re-write. But writing just for the sake of writing – non. But I can see that if you only desire to write it may be useful, in some instances. Now I can be way off here and that may not be what you are describing.

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  18. Yes, of course, I want to please others, and yes, absolutely, I self-edit (am doing it now, even though the closest I get to "freewriting" here is writing comments). I am scared and squirmy and embarrassed if not ashamed every time I hit "Publish." That tinny voice behind the ears cries out "How could you? how dare you subject other people to this drivel?" etc.
    So. One hides behind books, behind the beautiful words of others, behind initials and an avatar and hopes, prays that someday...(but we have had that discussion).
    You, on the other hand, show your face, write your life, are eloquent, elegant and precise. Even when writing off the top of your head.

    Ms. Amy TigerMom does sound heavy-handed. But this generation of parents is not as freewheeling as it claims to be: witness kids whose days begin with the 7:30 school bus and end at 9:00 following soccer or play practice. Who must make crucial decisions about their future at the age of 15. Will have to find Ruth's article.

    I always like to read what you write here. Thank you.

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  19. I would free-write if it turned out like yours. Always interesting, always raw and truthful. I love your style. My blog has turned into what I want to talk about, what I think is worth sharing, not how I will be perceived. Finally! It took getting beyond the whole commenting thing. And weirdly, I have less comments but more followers. They show up on the sitemeter and never say anything - I'm not even sure if they have blogs. And they are from all over the world. I was just about to close my blog when I visited it and noticed the silent readers. You probably have the same - people who read and never comment. So write for YOU and no one else. (Unless it's a job, of course.)

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  20. I find that writing a blog post of my own is much more free-flowing and natural, more like an email to a friend, than constructing a comment! I often work on my comments, because I'm struck down with self-consciousness, anxiety about sounding stupid, or shallow, or dispensing unsolicited advice, and often I can't find anything to say at all, even when the writer has given me much to think about.

    I LOVE Jinksy's rewording of the term free-writing!

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  21. Elizabeth, I was intrigued enough to take at look at the Freefall site and now want to go to one of the workshops! Thanks for pointing the way - it does help to have a personal recommendation.

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  22. Vagabonde, what I interpret freewriting as is simply not allowing your inner critic to stop you, to just 'let yourself' write without deliberate direction. Basically just whatever happens to be in your head. And not to stop to make corrections and especially not to edit.
    When I write a travelogue I write according to the photos I have - like you do - which makes things much easier. But the essays take a lot more time partly because I have very few prompts for them and because I am always trying to get them just right.
    I wish I could do a post in 20 minutes!!! There would be a lot more of them...

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  23. My dear ds, I shouldn't be surprised that you admit to such doubts, because most of us have them. But really, you don't need to be carrying around such baggage. Your writing is the kind of thing I would read regardless of the topic, just to enjoy the beauty of your language. The downside of being appreciated for your writing is that it sets up expectations, and then that whole tiresome loop of self-doubt and fear begins again.

    The only reason I don't hide is because I want that senior editor or crackerjack book agent to know who I am when they stumble across my blog, so they know where to send the fat advance. Ha!

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  24. Thanks, Deborah.

    Do you mean you sense something that has changed in my blog-writing? Or that mine is different from the writing of others? I ask because, well I have a reason . . .

    You can email me your answer if you have time and inclination: ruth.mowry@gmail.com

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  25. When reading a book that's beautifully written I will read a passage out loud just so I can 'hear' it too. It's been a while since I've read anything that good. The only time I 'free write' is when e-mailing my good friend, Holly. I let it all hang out and she tells me loves to read my e-mails. My run on sentence that passes for my latest rant to my sweet friend is nothing as well thought out as this blog post of yours. Maybe I should practice more, write more, post again. according to tiger mom practice makes perfect, or at least a performance at carnegie hall.

    p.s. that tiger mom thing is all over the place. An interview in Mcleans, this months' Oprah, she's created quite the sensation criticizing our western ways. There are times I do think I need to be more of a hard ass with the kids and she officially gives me permission. However my hard ass is her molly coddling !

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  26. I can't write a blog post until I have the germ of an idea. No idea, no post. But once I have the idea, it's pretty much free writing. And then lots of editing!

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  27. Nancy, I know what you mean about getting past the comments. It's taken me quite a while to put them in their proper place, which is that while they're often a nice ego boost (as yours today was), they should not be my reward. The real reward, in fact, is in the connections made, as we all seem to agree.
    The thing about commenters vs. followers is interesting. I've seen that happen on other blogs - it's almost as though the more followers you have, the lower the percentage of commenters. And good thing that you didn't shut it down after all - just think what we would have missed!

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  28. Rachel, that made me laugh. I have felt exactly the same way - wordless when I should have been full of things to say about a brilliant post. Sometimes I'm almost tempted to just leave a 'love this post' comment instead of just slinking away without saying anything, but I can't. You feel like you have to come up with something that's an appropriate hommage to the post, and it's often hard work. Reading newspapers is so much easier, and so much less satisfying!

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  29. Anita, it's always good to see you here but I miss reading about YOU! No pressure ;)

    Emails are the easiest things in the world to write for me too, especially to certain people. I have a reputation for writing great emails (I'm not blowing my own horn, just wait a minute) and when I talked to a counsellor a few years back about my desire to be a novelist and my frustration over not being able to get down to it, she just smiled and said 'perhaps what you are is a writer of emails.' Ouch. But not ouch, if you see what I mean.

    Practice is everything, yup. I don't do it nearly enough, with anything. Have you read 'Outliers' by Malcolm Gladwell? I haven't yet, but I guess his basic premise is that it takes 10,000 hours to get to the point of doing something well. 10,000 hours of practice, that is.

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  30. Fran, give me a break!!! You have gems of ideas every single day!

    The way you write is how I should - freewrite, then edit instead of editing as I go along. That's why it takes so bloody long and is so bloody like teeth-pulling.

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  31. Sorry to be late again but what I have to say you either know already or it isn't actually very helpful for you.

    I write my blog 'free-write', in that I say exactly what I am thinking. I also write exactly the way I speak. Although writing a blog is an important part of my day, week, life, I don't think of it as 'important writing'. It is at best an online commonplace book, a way of recounting stories from my past, an easy way to rant and rave without having to accept the social consequences.

    In other words, although I like it that people read my blog, and I certainly don't want to write into nothingness, without echo, I don't agonise over it.

    Writing here, in blogland, acc. to my writing teacher, is counter-productive to good writing. We have to blog in sound-bites, it's more of a gossip than a discussion with depth. Posts need to be short, catchy;
    it's almost impossible to be serious in a very few short paragraphs.

    I agree with her, the blogland I know (perhaps there is another) is not a place to practice creative writing, it's a place of diversion and blind alleys.

    The Chinese tiger mom follows the dictates of her own Chinese upbringing and that of others of her culture. I haven't read the book but a long article in the Guardian. Apparently one of her daughters rebelled and they now have a good relationship.

    Deb, I always go back over my writing and check for typos. A bit anal of me, I know.

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  32. Thanks for your feedback, Deborah. I totally understand the time issue.

    I just remembered that I saw a film based on a John Irving novel, 'The World According To Garp'. It had Robin Williams in it, when Robin could still act. :-)

    In terms of plot, I'm more willing to accept the lack of it in poems and veeeeeeery experimental literary androgynous (can I get away by using that term in the context of literature, my English-speaking pips?) pieces. You know, half-poetry, half prose, but crackingly good, nonetheless.

    Many thanks.

    Greetings from London.

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  33. Trainspotting is by Irvine Welsh, not John Irving.
    Both excellent authors. Very different writing.
    Not sure Debs would be into Irvine Welsh, but anything is worth a try!

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  34. Friko, I can see why your teacher has such an opinion of blogland, but there are many blogs where good writing takes priority. When I first started blogging, it was my intention to focus on the craft of writing as much as having something to say, but I haven't always been true to that. I don't think blogging is by nature inconsistent with good writing - as demonstrated at your own blog many times.
    Brevity can also be eloquent.

    As for typo-checking, it's hardly anal. Just good manners.

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  35. Dear Euchlid,
    I did see Trainspotting (as a film) and spent the first half just trying to attune my ear.
    Maybe the second half, too.

    I went to confirm you were who I thought you were and found you have a blog! I even left a comment...

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  36. I am not sure I freewrite. When I start to blog I only have the germ of an idea as to what it is about and it grows under my fingers. I do reread, correct, add, delete before I publish it. I don't take a long time about editing but I couldn't bear to publish something which didn't read right.

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  37. Nearly missed this post, Deborah, but glad I didn't - I love the honesty of your writing.

    Free writing is very close to my heart. I do it a lot and I find it taps into a rich creative seam. For me the secret is to be really free - almost as if 'channeling' my subconscious. I end up with weird, weird thoughts - odd juxtapositions, unlikely descriptions, words that seem unconnected but then sort of hang together. It works particularly well for poetry. It's also fun to make up a voice and just let it spout off in its own words - again, a sort of channeling. It is possible that I am 'not right in the head.'

    My very first post was a mini guide to free-writing and an example. But I don't really do it for blogs - which I tend to over-edit.

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  38. First of all, I want to be liked by everybody and I get really pissed off and hurt (or is it the other way around?) when they don't. I've always been a people pleaser and the first to apologize when someone is in a pissy mood, even if I haven't done anything to cause it. Meh.

    Do I freewrite? Yeah, pretty much. I don't do a lot of planning or research. What little I do is usually on the fly (thank you Mr. Internet). Sometimes it's just a word that gets me started. So when you read one of my posts that's what you're getting. That's not to say I don't edit the hell out of it. Sometimes I even edit after it's posted if I see something amiss or out of place.

    I don't do stream-of-conscious writing though. I should try it sometime, but then you all would think I am nutsy-cuckoo. There's a lot of useless stuff running around up there in my brain.

    Tiger Mom is a little over-the-top, IMO, but she does have a point about our constant praising of our little darlings. It's hard to learn disappointment when one is always perfect. Maybe it's why the last couple of generations have turned to drugs in such a big way.

    Deb, I hate to tell you this, but your free-writing is pretty orderly. :)

    XOXO

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  39. BB, I wrote back to you only in my head, it seems!! Was surprising to find nothing written here so now I'll rectify. I read your first post and it was great! (Comment left over there - now I remember!)

    Thanks for your remark about honesty. I don't really know any other way to write, and I have always found honesty in others very disarming. I just wanna be liked.

    Interesting idea to try freewriting in another voice. That might be just what I need actually - to get out of myself.

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  40. Susie, ah you're wonderful. So transparent. So full of little foibles. So likeable.

    We are psychic twins, obviously. The minute I think somebody is accusing me of something, I feel guilty. They must be right, right??
    But I'm betting you're a very, very fair person who does not throw blame around. NO, I'm not betting on it. I know it. That's the flipside of personalities like ours, I think.

    I think it would be fun to have a post-day when everybody just does stream-of-consciousness writing. Could turn the whole world upside down!!

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  41. First, thank you for visiting my photoblog. :-)

    Second, I love the comments you wrote for each light fixture. They are perfect!

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  42. Freewriting occurs in my journal, for sure. All kinds of garbage in there. But since it is my thoughts of the day, not certain it get the creative juices going or just dumps the junk in my brain regarding my life. Lets me get the fights or bad feelings I may have out on paper and put away. Lets me share something lovely that has happened to recall later.

    Timed writings are something I use more for "creativity." I choose a word - like "tree" and then write for 10 minutes. Tree can be fiction, non-fiction, even poetry. I may not even be about a certain tree, like, "They always met under the same tree... "No matter how far the squirrels chased one another around the yard, they always seemed to rest in the crest of the old maple in the corner." You know, or something even worse than that - Somedays I feel like dying tree in the yard - rough bark, hollow on the inside, fungus growing on the toes.

    Hmmmm - does this count as my freewrite for the day?

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  43. From my teacherly stance, I have to urge you to continue this practice--maybe doing 15 minutes of freewriting like this every Monday morning before the week takes you over. As I read, you took me back into my students; I have them freewrite journals (in my presence, with me holding the watch--they'd never do if left to carry it out at home), and I'm reminded of how often a small freewritten though then shows up later in a polished paper. Tehre's much value to forcing out your Randoms so that you can capture them for use at a later date.

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  44. I think that I free write all my blogs, but I do not always publish them in that state. It's how I start. And, often, I edit several times even after I publish the given entry. I think it depends on the subject and whether I am afraid to reveal myself. The more afraid I am, the more likely I am to simply put it down on my virtual paper. Not always sure that's been smart on my blog, but it's what I do. It IS fun, though, to watch the brain jump around from subject to subject, don't you think?

    Your freewriting is some peoples fourth draft. I've missed reading your blog... missed being in here, period as I muddled through my little life.

    I like cluster writing when I am blocked--I pick an event and just let the mind wander around it, jotting down places, people, a snippet of an event. THEN I will freewrite something like an entry or essay, or even a poem. Interesting conversation--and fun.

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  45. Deborah,

    Thanks for your kind comment on my blog Ripple Effects. Regarding the Tiger Mom, I'd like to share the following.

    I immigrated to Canada as a teenager from Hong Kong with my parents, and years later became a mother myself bringing up a Canadian-born child who is now graduating university and heading to law school. I totally understand where Amy Chua’s values come from, and the need for immigrant parents to steer their children towards success and achievement in the adopted country. That is usually one of the main reasons for immigration. However, I’m just a little surprised that she being American-born, would be so persistent to enforce some very traditional Chinese values, and that herself being a Yale Law professor, would be so conservative in the raising of her daughters. This however, may just well be a promotional tactic.

    I just received an email from a cousin, a Chinese-American immigrant Mom who has brought up two American-born children, a son and a daughter. Both of them are young professionals now. I’ve asked her permission to share this with you and your readers. This is her comment after reading the book Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother:

    “Just got done reading her book, some reviews say it’s nothing more than the excerpt. I say it is much, much more and enjoyed it a lot more than the excerpt, it’s a fun read – I couldn’t put it down – full of humor and self-mocking. Her style of parenting is tough love, carried to extreme, and in an earlier chapter she talked about why she was determined to practice it on her 2 children… The results are two very exceptional students and accomplished musicians. But more importantly, they are healthy, well-adjusted, and ever grateful to their Tiger Mom for doing what she did, and the bonds between them and Tiger Mom have never been stronger… I told my kids (and kid-in-law) to read it, that they will see parts of themselves in it, I did.”

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